Everyone that works, works for an end in which he finds satisfaction. Wherefore God, as He is perfect hasn't need of satisfaction, because, He has satisfaction Himself. And so willing to work, He created before all things the soul of His Habib for whom He determined to create the whole in order that the creatures should find joy and blessedness in God [ie. as the Mercy of the Creations or in short, the Messiah to the Mankind], whence His Habib should take delight in all His creatures, which He has appointed to be His Messenger, His slave, and wherefore this is, so save as thus He willed.
Thus, every prophet when he came, borne to one nation only, which was the mark of the mercy of God. And so their words were not extended save to those people to whom they were sent. But the Messiah, when he shall come, God shall give to him as it were the seal of His hand, insomuch that he shall carry the salvation and mercy to all the nations of the world that shall receive his doctrine."
He, the Messiah, shall come with power upon the ungodly, and shall destroy idolatry, insomuch that he shall make Satan confounded; for so promised God to Abraham, saying:
"Behold, in your seed I will bless all the tribes of the earth; and as you have broken in pieces the idols, O Abraham, even so shall your seed do."
-From this verse, it is clear, in whom this promise was made. Surely it is "in Ishmael;" not "in Isaac,". Because Muhammad, the lineage of Ishmael, cleaned Ka'ba destroying 300 idols, not Jesus, the lineage of David [a lineage of Isaac].
Thus, every prophet when he came, borne to one nation only, which was the mark of the mercy of God. And so their words were not extended save to those people to whom they were sent. But the Messiah, when he shall come, God shall give to him as it were the seal of His hand, insomuch that he shall carry the salvation and mercy to all the nations of the world that shall receive his doctrine."
He, the Messiah, shall come with power upon the ungodly, and shall destroy idolatry, insomuch that he shall make Satan confounded; for so promised God to Abraham, saying:
"Behold, in your seed I will bless all the tribes of the earth; and as you have broken in pieces the idols, O Abraham, even so shall your seed do."
-From this verse, it is clear, in whom this promise was made. Surely it is "in Ishmael;" not "in Isaac,". Because Muhammad, the lineage of Ishmael, cleaned Ka'ba destroying 300 idols, not Jesus, the lineage of David [a lineage of Isaac].
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| Book of Psalms |
"Then why the Jews say that the Messiah will be among them and in the lineage of David? Is their claim baseless?"
To justify their claim, we have to inquire the lineage of David. And we find, he was of Isaac; for Isaac was father of Jacob, and Jacob was father of Judah of whose lineage is David. And now the question is- the Messiah, when he shall come, of what lineage will he be?
In Zabur (Psalm), we find that David calls him (the Messiah) Lord, saying thus:
The LORD said unto my Lord,
"Sit thou at my right,
until I make thine enemies thy footstool." -[Psalm, 110:1]
According to this verse of Psalms, it is clear that God shall send forth Jews Lord which shall have Lordship in the midst of their enemies, not among them. Again, If that Messenger of God, whom they call Messiah, shall be the son of David, how should David call him Lord?
"Yah, that's a big Question."
Thus it confirms the Promised Messiah shall never be the son of David.
"If this is true, then the Question is- How it is written in the Book of Moses, that the promise was made in Isaac?"
It is so written, but Moses did not write it, nor Joshua, but rather their Rabbins!
"Then how to Justify this?!"
For its justification, we have to consider the words of the Angel Gabriel, and then we shall discover the malice of (Jews) scribes and doctors. For the angel said: "Abraham, all the world shall know how God loves you; but how shall the world know the love that you bear to God? Assuredly, you must do something for the love of God."
Abraham answered: "Behold the servant of God, ready to do all that which God shall will."
Then spoke God, saying to Abraham: "Take your son, your firstborn; and come up the mountain Marwah [al-Marwah- a mountain now located in the Masjid al-Haram in Mecca and interestingly, you will find in the Bible- Marwah as Moriah] to sacrifice him."
"And it is also written [in the Bible] that Isaac as the firstborn."
That's right. And thus the question arises, "How is Isaac firstborn, if, when Isaac was born Ishmael was seven years old?"
That's right. And thus the question arises, "How is Isaac firstborn, if, when Isaac was born Ishmael was seven years old?"
"Hu it's a question."
And, therefore, it is clear- that is the deception of their [Jews] doctors."
"Is this, then how do you conclude for the result we have?
This- "Satan ever seeks to annul the laws of God; and therefore he with his followers, hypocrites and evildoers, the former with false doctrine, the latter with lewd living, today they have contaminated almost all things, so that scarcely is the truth found.
"Hu."
And for this, their praises of this world shall turn for them into insults and torments in hell for ever.
"Sad, very sad."
The End.
Not Yet Verified.
Sources:
Jabur [Psalms]
Gospel
Qur'an.
Q & A
# "You already explained- why Muhammad is the Lord of David, not Jesus without explaining the details of the verse "Psalm, 110:1". You could answer the question through the verse, yet you left the verse and answered differently, why? Will you pl. answer the above question explaining details of the verse "Psalm, 110:1"?"
@ Actually, the verse Psalm 110:1; is known to all and many of them [Scholars] have attitudes that they know better than others. So I leave it to influence them to challenge me if they find any contradiction with my above answer. And I love challenges; because it helps people to know- what the truth is.
Yah, we can answer the question through Psalm, 110:1, but that will be fully opposite what you know. But now you influencing me to answer in that way.
However, from the verse Psalm, 110:1 we came to know what David envisioned during his days. He visioned that when his Lord, Messiah will come, his people will reject him. And in a phase, when they will plan to kill him, he will flee from them, from his motherland, from a place of the house of God. And during his flee, when he reached near to his destination, David visioned clearly the distress of his Load and found him in his sorrowfulness, in his mental depression, when a road that goes to his homeland [Mecca] would come to his sight.
Visioning this condition of his lord Messiah, David too depressed and God comforted him at that time with the verse Psalm 110:1, which indicates that his lord will win at last, and those enemies that made his Lord to be depressed, God shall make them as his footstool. This is actually what we are being told by that verse 110:1-
The LORD said unto my Lord,
"Sit thou at my right,
until I make thine enemies thy footstool."- Psalm 110:1
"Is that happen later?"
We may enquirer about that.
When Muhammad realized that he was one of them those were Prophets before him, he began to warn his people Quraish, who were enjoying Polytheism at that time. And, when the Quraish discover that he is against their gods, they try to convince him softly because he is known to them as al-Amin- a truthful man. But when that failed, they tried to control him applying gradually harder methods known to them. But all were in vain. So they plan to kill him. At that point, God told His servant to depart from Mecca.
Thus, after receiving divine direction, Muhammad departed from Mecca in the night with his trusted friend Abu Bakr. And in the morning, when the Quraish came to know that the target escaped from their grip, they became ferocious. They at once announced 100 camels as a reward for bringing him back to them, alive or dead.
"Is this?"
Sure, and in a phase, when these two deserter reached to a place called Joppa near Ragheb, the road to Mecca came to the sight of the Prophet. At once, the memory of Baitullah [which was once built by Adam and later by his ancestor Abraham and his son Ishmael] and his homeland stirred in his mind. And a nostalgia [memories of the past] made him depressed and his eyes filled with tears. Then the angel Gabriel came to comfort him with this assurance-
"He, Who has made the Qur'an binding on thee, will certainly return thee victoriously to thy place of birth." -(28:85)
Now, do you find the relation to this verse with the verse Psalm 110:1? Do you find all those frames [pictures] that David actually visioned? Do you find how God shall make the enemies of David's Lord as his footstool?
"Yah, "He .... will certainly return thee victoriously" clears it all."
Exactly. Through that verse of Psalm, David told us that his LORD [ie. God] comfort him and his Lord [ie. Muhammad], telling him [David's Lord] to sit at "His right" [ie. to stay in SOUTH of al-Aqsa/Temple of Solomon,] ie, in Yathrib [as Yathrib/Madina is in the south [right] of al-Aqsa/Temple of Solomon], until God makes his enemies ie. Quraish [Polytheists of Mecca] as his [David's Lord ie. Muhammad's] footstool.
"Ok everything cleared, but.. is not Qur'an informed us- Jesus as Messiah?"
Yah, but he is the Messiah to the Jews, Qur'an never mentioned him as Messiah to Mankind.
"Then what about Christians?"
Look, there is no relation between Christians and Jesus. Do you not see the behavior of Jesus with the Samaritan women!! Remember that incident- Jesus overlooked her, yet the woman running behind him [because she recognized and believed him as a prophet of God].
And what Jesus did? Nothing. But, then he was interrupted by his disciples, and they informed him of the women.
Now, do you believe that Jesus was fully unaware that a woman running behind him and cried for his help?
"Surely he aware of that."
Right.
And if this, then what is appropriate for a Prophet like Jesus in that situation? This time, it was obligated for him to answer that woman, is not it?
"Yah."
And what he says to them?
"Them?"
Obviously to the disciples and the woman.
"Disciples?!"
Yah disciples, because if they have a proper understanding of him, they would not stop him.
A mighty prophet of God, who already showed them a lot of miracles, do you think he was blind or dumb?
"Surely not."
So Jesus told them the truth- “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”-[Matthew 15:24]
"What does this verse mean?"
It means, he cannot bring salvation to others besides Bani Israel, as he was sent to their house for them only.
But, the woman was desperate, as the case was her only child. So she fell on his leg and begged for help.
"Wow!"
Now tell me, a Prophet who is in such a bindings [Matthew 15:24], could able to help her?
And, therefore, it is clear- that is the deception of their [Jews] doctors."
"Is this, then how do you conclude for the result we have?
This- "Satan ever seeks to annul the laws of God; and therefore he with his followers, hypocrites and evildoers, the former with false doctrine, the latter with lewd living, today they have contaminated almost all things, so that scarcely is the truth found.
"Hu."
And for this, their praises of this world shall turn for them into insults and torments in hell for ever.
"Sad, very sad."
The End.
Not Yet Verified.
Sources:
Jabur [Psalms]
Gospel
Qur'an.
Q & A
# "You already explained- why Muhammad is the Lord of David, not Jesus without explaining the details of the verse "Psalm, 110:1". You could answer the question through the verse, yet you left the verse and answered differently, why? Will you pl. answer the above question explaining details of the verse "Psalm, 110:1"?"
@ Actually, the verse Psalm 110:1; is known to all and many of them [Scholars] have attitudes that they know better than others. So I leave it to influence them to challenge me if they find any contradiction with my above answer. And I love challenges; because it helps people to know- what the truth is.
Yah, we can answer the question through Psalm, 110:1, but that will be fully opposite what you know. But now you influencing me to answer in that way.
However, from the verse Psalm, 110:1 we came to know what David envisioned during his days. He visioned that when his Lord, Messiah will come, his people will reject him. And in a phase, when they will plan to kill him, he will flee from them, from his motherland, from a place of the house of God. And during his flee, when he reached near to his destination, David visioned clearly the distress of his Load and found him in his sorrowfulness, in his mental depression, when a road that goes to his homeland [Mecca] would come to his sight.
Visioning this condition of his lord Messiah, David too depressed and God comforted him at that time with the verse Psalm 110:1, which indicates that his lord will win at last, and those enemies that made his Lord to be depressed, God shall make them as his footstool. This is actually what we are being told by that verse 110:1-
The LORD said unto my Lord,
"Sit thou at my right,
until I make thine enemies thy footstool."- Psalm 110:1
"Is that happen later?"
We may enquirer about that.
When Muhammad realized that he was one of them those were Prophets before him, he began to warn his people Quraish, who were enjoying Polytheism at that time. And, when the Quraish discover that he is against their gods, they try to convince him softly because he is known to them as al-Amin- a truthful man. But when that failed, they tried to control him applying gradually harder methods known to them. But all were in vain. So they plan to kill him. At that point, God told His servant to depart from Mecca.
Thus, after receiving divine direction, Muhammad departed from Mecca in the night with his trusted friend Abu Bakr. And in the morning, when the Quraish came to know that the target escaped from their grip, they became ferocious. They at once announced 100 camels as a reward for bringing him back to them, alive or dead.
"Is this?"
Sure, and in a phase, when these two deserter reached to a place called Joppa near Ragheb, the road to Mecca came to the sight of the Prophet. At once, the memory of Baitullah [which was once built by Adam and later by his ancestor Abraham and his son Ishmael] and his homeland stirred in his mind. And a nostalgia [memories of the past] made him depressed and his eyes filled with tears. Then the angel Gabriel came to comfort him with this assurance-
"He, Who has made the Qur'an binding on thee, will certainly return thee victoriously to thy place of birth." -(28:85)
Now, do you find the relation to this verse with the verse Psalm 110:1? Do you find all those frames [pictures] that David actually visioned? Do you find how God shall make the enemies of David's Lord as his footstool?
"Yah, "He .... will certainly return thee victoriously" clears it all."
Exactly. Through that verse of Psalm, David told us that his LORD [ie. God] comfort him and his Lord [ie. Muhammad], telling him [David's Lord] to sit at "His right" [ie. to stay in SOUTH of al-Aqsa/Temple of Solomon,] ie, in Yathrib [as Yathrib/Madina is in the south [right] of al-Aqsa/Temple of Solomon], until God makes his enemies ie. Quraish [Polytheists of Mecca] as his [David's Lord ie. Muhammad's] footstool.
"Ok everything cleared, but.. is not Qur'an informed us- Jesus as Messiah?"
Yah, but he is the Messiah to the Jews, Qur'an never mentioned him as Messiah to Mankind.
"Then what about Christians?"
Look, there is no relation between Christians and Jesus. Do you not see the behavior of Jesus with the Samaritan women!! Remember that incident- Jesus overlooked her, yet the woman running behind him [because she recognized and believed him as a prophet of God].
And what Jesus did? Nothing. But, then he was interrupted by his disciples, and they informed him of the women.
Now, do you believe that Jesus was fully unaware that a woman running behind him and cried for his help?
"Surely he aware of that."
Right.
And if this, then what is appropriate for a Prophet like Jesus in that situation? This time, it was obligated for him to answer that woman, is not it?
"Yah."
And what he says to them?
"Them?"
Obviously to the disciples and the woman.
"Disciples?!"
Yah disciples, because if they have a proper understanding of him, they would not stop him.
A mighty prophet of God, who already showed them a lot of miracles, do you think he was blind or dumb?
"Surely not."
So Jesus told them the truth- “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”-[Matthew 15:24]
"What does this verse mean?"
It means, he cannot bring salvation to others besides Bani Israel, as he was sent to their house for them only.
But, the woman was desperate, as the case was her only child. So she fell on his leg and begged for help.
"Wow!"
Now tell me, a Prophet who is in such a bindings [Matthew 15:24], could able to help her?
"A Prophet is only to fulfill their purposes, I think, as they are truthful in their Works and Deeds."
Then why the women fall on his feet and beg? Was she not aware of that?
"She recognized him as a Prophet, thus surely aware which a prophet could do and what couldn't. But I am not sure why the women did such things."
She did that because she was wise. She believed that Jesus directly could not able to help her nor able to bring salvation for her, yet he could do everything indirectly. He could pray to God to help her [which is permitted for all human beings], and that shall be granted, as "God cannot disprove any of His servants."
"Wow!! The woman is truly clever and wise!!!"
Yah. And this is why Jesus puts her to TEST, thus telling her, "It is not right to take the children's [Sons of Israel] bread [ie. Gospel] and throw it to the Dogs [ie. those are non-Jew]" -[Matthew 15:26]
"What!?! Is it appropriate for a prophet to test one's faith by insulting her, who is begging for help holding his legs?"
This is the point of thought.
Actually, Jesus did not insult her; but reminded her of his duties. The fact is, he set "A TEST" for all.
"For all?"
Yes for all.
Then why the women fall on his feet and beg? Was she not aware of that?
"She recognized him as a Prophet, thus surely aware which a prophet could do and what couldn't. But I am not sure why the women did such things."
She did that because she was wise. She believed that Jesus directly could not able to help her nor able to bring salvation for her, yet he could do everything indirectly. He could pray to God to help her [which is permitted for all human beings], and that shall be granted, as "God cannot disprove any of His servants."
"Wow!! The woman is truly clever and wise!!!"
Yah. And this is why Jesus puts her to TEST, thus telling her, "It is not right to take the children's [Sons of Israel] bread [ie. Gospel] and throw it to the Dogs [ie. those are non-Jew]" -[Matthew 15:26]
"What!?! Is it appropriate for a prophet to test one's faith by insulting her, who is begging for help holding his legs?"
This is the point of thought.
Actually, Jesus did not insult her; but reminded her of his duties. The fact is, he set "A TEST" for all.
"For all?"
Yes for all.
-For the woman- it was her "Faith Test" by hurting,- because, you cannot get anything without a price.
-For the disciples- it was a teaching and a reminder of the above verse -“I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”, and,
-For the future people [ie. for Christians], it is for a thought of a clear understanding that "JESUS IS UNABLE TO BRING SALVATION FOR A NON-JEW."
"Wow!"
And, Jesus set this test for all because, he realized that his disciples already failed to understand him and his duties properly, so that, they [disciples] may think and may not derail people from the "STRAIGHT PATH" after him;
"O My God!!"
And for the worst case, if they even fail to do that, someone among the peoples of the Scriptures surely thought in the future that ["DOGS" which he said to a helpless woman], and thus, they may able to understand him and the verse- “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” and thereby able to SAVE themselves from RUINED.
"My God!!!"
Now, what is the result we have from the test that Jesus sets?
"What?"
For the women, we find her as a WINNER. She "WINS through WISDOM". Remember what she replied to Jesus-
“Yes, Lord,” she said, “even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”-[Matthew, 15:27],
"And what about the disciples?"
They "FAILED".
"Failed?!"
Yah, failed.
Look, after a while, in absence of Jesus, they began to discuss on the subject [Dogs] and what they conclude?
"What?"
They concluded that- "he said this [dogs to a begging woman] for that they are unclean- they do not circumcise"- and this is the explanation of "DOGS" what we have from the Bible [Gospel] today.
Now, tell me is it logical that a mighty Prophet of Merciful God called a helpless woman "dogs" because she belongs to them, those are uncircumcised?
"No, no, it can't be true."
So, is not this their [disciples] "lack of WISDOM"?
"Surely it is."
And for this, I used the term "FAILED" for them.
And, because of their lack of wisdom, they not only failed to understand Jesus as a Prophet, but failed to justify his sayings- thus misguided us by giving a "WRONG MEANING" of his sayings. So, can you expect any outcome from them that is Good?
"No."
And, this is why, they failed to resist "PAUL [Sha'ul]- the Antichrist", and its result is Christianity that we have today.
# Another Asked, "Bro, Is there anything we need to know for a better understanding of Scripture?"
@ I said, "Yes, you need to know the answer to the questions- "How Satan works?" and "How God Works?" Then it will be clear to you- what is included the mother book and what is that it excludes. Thus, it will be clear to you Verses of the Scriptures even the actions and sayings of the prophets. We may able to explain [indirect proof] with our intuitional power but we can't prove all [directly], as we are based on Scriptures only and no scripture says much of it.
# "Bro, what are you doing actually?!"
@ I joked, saying, "Then what should I do? Should I let Jews to live a life as Divorcee?! "
"You are a mad. Do you know that you are dealing with huge sensitive subjects?!?"
I know. Look, everything has a rule, thus for religion. Do you know the no of religions in our world in this 21st century, a century that can be termed as a Science and Technological era?
"No."
Me too, but I am sure, the actual number will surprise you. It is more or less 4000. And the interesting thing is that all the groups of people believe to this days that their religion is true- they are on the right path. But, is that possible?
"Do they have any proof logically or scientifically?"
No, they only have their religion from their forefathers- inherited.
"Then we cannot take any of the religion as true."
Yah, we can not take any of the religion as true without proof. Actually, all religions cannot be true logically- as God is one.
"What is the logic of religion or faith when God is one?"
It is- "As God is one, so the truth shall be one; it follows that the doctrine is one and the meaning of the doctrine is one; and therefore the faith is one."
"But what about the Scriptures?"
The interesting thing is that when a scripture claims itself its truthfulness, yet it is not rejecting others [openly] except Qur'an.
"Very interesting, and what Qur'an says actually?"
It is- You will never find in the way of Allah any change, and you will never find in the way of Allah any alteration.-(35:43) He has ordained for you of religion what He enjoined upon Noah and that which We have revealed to you [Muhammad], and what We enjoined upon Abraham and Moses and Jesus - to establish the religion and not be divided therein. -(42:13)
Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. -(3:19) So is it other than the religion of Allah they desire..?-(3:83) And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be surely among the losers.-(3:85)
"If this is true that the laws of God never changes, then, how all those religion evolved?"
Qur'an answered that as- And those who were given they did not differ except after knowledge had come to them - out of jealous animosity between themselves. -(3:19)
Now tell me, are you going to accuse me as guilty?
"No, I love and admire them those are damn bold supporting truth and of course truthful in their words and deeds."
And you know truth itself has a power. It never compromises with false.
"Hu, but you placed people [Christians] in their "Test of Faith"?"
Do you actually believe that I put them? If I do not do this surely someone will do it in the future. So do not blame me. Humans are "Free Willed" by creation. And you know, Qur'an promises a huge satisfaction in the hereafter, and logically, the biggest the sacrifice- the biggest shall be in return?
"Hu, that is logical, but I got nothing of its proof in my life. Actually, I always found myself as a loser, never gained from any situation. But do you have any experience of your own as Qur'an says?"
Oh no, I never had something valuable, so what do I have to lose? Hahaha....
"Hahahaaa... that is interesting too. However, you do not mention, how people test themselves."
Look, I am not any kind of religious person as one may think of. I am a technical guy and I am only curious to know -the way God Works to run this complicated world. Thus, I have been in close contact with the scriptures for a long time, that's all. You know, God can't directly contact anyone unless he is His Servant or it was pre-written in the "Mother Book". So there is no scope of thinking of someone like me as special. So it is not obligatory for me to tell them the way to pass the test, or it is?
"Look, the "Test of Faith" as mentioned by their scriptures shall cost a lot of life. Is not it true?"
Yah.
"You know this, yet you put them to the test. Then, if I conclude that you intentionally put them to test to decrease a significant no. of Infidels- will you disagree with that?"
Look, I have no bad intentions, I love people irrespective of their religion, you believe it or not. Actually, I did not explain because nobody asked me.
"Nobody asked you to put them to the test, or they?"
I just show them the truth- [and as a Muslim it is our duty too], so that they may be benefited in this world and in the hereafter and shall not able to blame us in the day of Standing.
"Ok, but if it is for their benefit, then I suppose, you should apologize and show them- how they will test themselves for a clean pass."
Now, I have to say- you have logic's.
Apology:
As Muslims we have our duty to show non-Muslims, how they are bonded within the traps and make them losers in the hereafter. The loss is huge and is irrecoverable. Having this knowledge and proof, it is good to inform them of the truth, and this is Humanity I think.
I actually not putting anyone to any test. It is their own scriptures that put them to the Test. One can't suddenly blame me. Religious people should not fear testing their faith.
For Christians, it is Jesus who put them to the test. And traditionally, Church fathers decide the way of test-analyzing Scriptures. And surely that test will cost a lot of lives; because we are already familiar with their "Judicium Dei". So, humanity obligated me to show the actual way of their faith test, because we already showed who are Christian and what is their relation with Jesus. And proved they were not saved and never were. Now I apologize for my failure to explain this appropriately, in the very first moment.
Actually, there is nothing to fear in the test, even no money involvement. Their test is to leave their religion. And - they have two options for their salvation-
1. Step Forward, ie. Join with Muhammad as a Muslim: And if they want to be a Muslim just recite Shahada in present some Muslim for a witness, that's all.
2. Step Backward, ie. Back to Abraham as Hanif: If they want to back Abraham, they should pledge to God to forgive their past sins- that's all and this is the test.
"That means no need to test as that of their Scriptures?"
When the Scriptures itself lost its validity [Validity depends on purity for the case of Scripture. Thus it will lost its validity when it contains a single false], then how its test to be valid?
"Hu, that's a question. However, is there no other options??"
Why not? Humans are free-willed by creation [we already said this no. of times], so they have all the options to choose, even not to choose. However, in this case, there are two more options-
3. They may become Jews: In that case, they should know that if they back to the Jewish religion they are not saved, because we proved that the Jews are already among them who are not under salvation.
4. They may hold Christianity: If they hold Christianity as before with or without a Test of Faith, rejecting the truth that was revealed to them, then you know, they are also not able to save themselves, because we showed them proof that Christianity was never under Salvation from the beginning, nor ever be in the future [We already showed them that they were rejected by Jesus Himself from the beginning and the Verse still shining as light in their Scriptures as proof].
Thus, #3 and #4 have no way of salvation.
"No way of salvation!?!"
Yah, no way of salvation until Jesus comes back. You see they will have another chance in the future. This is because God is Merciful, thus, He will not leave anything undone that may disprove His LOVE [not measurable] to mankind nor will He leave anything for mankind to blame Him on the day of Judgment.
"Hu, but if they have some way of Salvation then why not you add this as a subgroup to the pair above?"
Interesting, then you catch the point!?! Hahaha...... My God!.... Wow.... now I am impressed, really. However, I do not add them to the pair above, because we have some reasons, of course. And explaining this ["it needs a brief explanation" people still do not understand what is the difference between a). Moses (with him God talks directly) and Muhammad and, b). Jesus (Words of God directly with him and he was the Savior of the Jews) and Muhammad, though we explain the "STATUS" of Muhammad in the very beginning of this article] here, we fear that will make this article lengthier [because people still do not understand c). "The status" difference between a 3rd class Muslim (as I am) and the Non Muslim. Thus they failed to understand the "Status of Jesus when he will come when sealed of the Prophets already visited in the past], so we will discuss this point in a separate article, just remind me.
Questions?
"Yeah, then we have to believe Jesus is still alive?"
See? what Jesus said to one of his disciples?- "...if I had not been called God I should have been carried into paradise when I shall depart from the world, whereas now I shall not go thither until the judgment.... [people called him God] for this I must have great persecution, and shall be sold by one of my disciples for thirty pieces of money. Whereupon I am sure that he who shall sell me shall be slain in my name, for that God shall take me up from the earth, and shall change the appearance of the traitor so that everyone shall believe him to be me; nevertheless, when he dies an evil death, I shall abide in that dishonor for a long time in the world. But when Muhammad shall come, the sacred Messenger of God, that infamy shall be taken away. And this shall God do because I have confessed the truth of the Messiah who shall give me this reward, that I shall be known to be alive and to be a stranger to that death of infamy." -Barnabas ch-112.
"Then he will come again?"
A man must have to die [Indeed, you are to die, and indeed, they (rest of you) are to die.-39:30], But, Jesus did not die on the cross but lifted up according to Qur'an [And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following assumptions. And they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.-4:157-58]. Thus he must come again.
"But the "Faith Test" prescribed by the Christian Scriptures is different. What it would be if they followed that?"
Look, You need not to follow what is in your book, when you are unable to prove of its truthfulness. Is not it true? "Hu, and if they do not test themselves?"
That is if someone is not interested in testing himself? Ok, His fate is in his hands, the decision is self-chosen. Simple.
"Clear, but what about them those [Children who are the victim of incest] possess chemicals?"
I think if they pass and later test positive, then they have to cure themselves. They have every hope because; GOD IS MOST MERCIFUL, but a man who is uncircumcised and those are Gays, shall not eligible for the test.
"We know for certain that un-circumcision [uncircumcised shall never able to enter into the paradise because of the Promise of Adam. He promised with an oath when he was in paradise. And what is promised by father of mankind shall.....] is the greatest Sin, but what about Gay?"
You know they use sewage outlets and that gives them pleasure. Could a normal person in this civilized era ever think of "enjoyment" doing that disgusting job for one's pleasure?
"No, a civilized person can't do such a nasty job for his enjoyment."
So Gays cannot be considered as normal, they are sick and perverted. Their heinous deeds not only unclean their body but also their soul, thus they shall be deprived of Paradise in the hereafter, and in this world, their hateful deed shall be considered as a crime of the highest degree.
Now, can you explain the logic behind such a degree?
"A crime to be considered as highest degree when that is against humanity."
Exactly. And perversion is a thing that is in a sleeping condition with our flesh, thus if once allowed, it gradually will rotten the entire society. Do you not know the story of the city Sodom-Gomorrah?
"Yeah."
Sodomy is such a disease that is never cured, Thus in the ancient period, it was obligatory to kill all of those who are Gay for the sake of mankind. And you know what God did to those sodomite people. He did that is not His usual practice [need to cite verse]. He wiped them out and made a sign for mankind as a warning, which is known as the "Dead Sea"
"Then the Gays are under the death penalty?!"
Is that God prescribed to do so?
"No, but God wipes them out and you said it was obligatory to kill them."
We are not God, and it was obligatory in the ancient, but that doesn't mean it shall be obligatory to this modern era. Look, it was obligatory in that period because they had no other alternatives to choose as an option, thus they needed to do that with a proper understanding Scriptural Warning -"Killing a human is the greatest Sin." but today we have options- we have jailing systems for the criminals.
Now tell me why God does not prescribe us to do so when He implemented that Himself?
"Why?"
Their crime is apparently against humanity but it's hard to prove for us. This is why God does not prescribe us to do so. Actually, what God can do we can't do that all the time.
Now, tell me what is the difference between the Gays and the Incesters?
"Sodomy is considered both as a Crime and as a Sin, but for Incesters it is only a Sin. It is because Gays never repent as they do not consider their deeds as offensive, on the other hand, Incesters repent at some point when they realize they did an illegal thing, considered by the scriptures as the greatest sin and then they become weak morally and realize that they commit that sin when they were out of sense and they repent [sometimes they killed them-self during repentance].
So? Yes, this is why a Gay demands severe punishment both in this world and in the hereafter [they will be deprived of paradise] whereas, Incester has conditional options to be pardoned in this world and a chance of entering into Paradise. Yet............"
Yet what?
"Yet we find some revolutionary discovery through their sinful deeds. Hahaha....."
What are those?
"We have now options to disprove "Darwin Theory", and some revolutionary inventions in medical and all other branches of science. In medical, for example, cause and remedy of cancer and other genetic disorders, etc, etc, which you said in one of your articles that you wrote some years ago, named ...named.. oh ha, "Ishwar Chandra". "
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"But the "Faith Test" prescribed by the Christian Scriptures is different. What it would be if they followed that?"
Look, You need not to follow what is in your book, when you are unable to prove of its truthfulness. Is not it true? "Hu, and if they do not test themselves?"
That is if someone is not interested in testing himself? Ok, His fate is in his hands, the decision is self-chosen. Simple.
"Clear, but what about them those [Children who are the victim of incest] possess chemicals?"
I think if they pass and later test positive, then they have to cure themselves. They have every hope because; GOD IS MOST MERCIFUL, but a man who is uncircumcised and those are Gays, shall not eligible for the test.
"We know for certain that un-circumcision [uncircumcised shall never able to enter into the paradise because of the Promise of Adam. He promised with an oath when he was in paradise. And what is promised by father of mankind shall.....] is the greatest Sin, but what about Gay?"
You know they use sewage outlets and that gives them pleasure. Could a normal person in this civilized era ever think of "enjoyment" doing that disgusting job for one's pleasure?
"No, a civilized person can't do such a nasty job for his enjoyment."
So Gays cannot be considered as normal, they are sick and perverted. Their heinous deeds not only unclean their body but also their soul, thus they shall be deprived of Paradise in the hereafter, and in this world, their hateful deed shall be considered as a crime of the highest degree.
Now, can you explain the logic behind such a degree?
"A crime to be considered as highest degree when that is against humanity."
Exactly. And perversion is a thing that is in a sleeping condition with our flesh, thus if once allowed, it gradually will rotten the entire society. Do you not know the story of the city Sodom-Gomorrah?
"Yeah."
Sodomy is such a disease that is never cured, Thus in the ancient period, it was obligatory to kill all of those who are Gay for the sake of mankind. And you know what God did to those sodomite people. He did that is not His usual practice [need to cite verse]. He wiped them out and made a sign for mankind as a warning, which is known as the "Dead Sea"
"Then the Gays are under the death penalty?!"
Is that God prescribed to do so?
"No, but God wipes them out and you said it was obligatory to kill them."
We are not God, and it was obligatory in the ancient, but that doesn't mean it shall be obligatory to this modern era. Look, it was obligatory in that period because they had no other alternatives to choose as an option, thus they needed to do that with a proper understanding Scriptural Warning -"Killing a human is the greatest Sin." but today we have options- we have jailing systems for the criminals.
Now tell me why God does not prescribe us to do so when He implemented that Himself?
"Why?"
Their crime is apparently against humanity but it's hard to prove for us. This is why God does not prescribe us to do so. Actually, what God can do we can't do that all the time.
Now, tell me what is the difference between the Gays and the Incesters?
"Sodomy is considered both as a Crime and as a Sin, but for Incesters it is only a Sin. It is because Gays never repent as they do not consider their deeds as offensive, on the other hand, Incesters repent at some point when they realize they did an illegal thing, considered by the scriptures as the greatest sin and then they become weak morally and realize that they commit that sin when they were out of sense and they repent [sometimes they killed them-self during repentance].
So? Yes, this is why a Gay demands severe punishment both in this world and in the hereafter [they will be deprived of paradise] whereas, Incester has conditional options to be pardoned in this world and a chance of entering into Paradise. Yet............"
Yet what?
"Yet we find some revolutionary discovery through their sinful deeds. Hahaha....."
What are those?
"We have now options to disprove "Darwin Theory", and some revolutionary inventions in medical and all other branches of science. In medical, for example, cause and remedy of cancer and other genetic disorders, etc, etc, which you said in one of your articles that you wrote some years ago, named ...named.. oh ha, "Ishwar Chandra". "
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